The Psf

JettJackson · Post by **JettJackson** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:33 am

There was a discussion today with some people about the PSF being overpowered on defense now that combat is slower. My suggestion for the PSF is one of 2 things: A. get rid of it entirely or B. make it a fed only ship thus giving feds a ship trade ship, since evil has one too lowering the defence to /11-/13 and up the price to 15-20 million. Everyone knows at this point with the crop of players that are here that dying in the PSF is nearly impossible unless your connection dies or you have a brain lapse. Today for example I fired on a 57k psf 4 shots with a 97k Dev with a

Nijarin Ion Phaser Beam
Nijarin Ion Phaser Beam
Nijarin Ion Phaser Beam
Nijarin Ion Disrupter
Nijarin Ion Disrupter
Planetary Pulse Laser
Creonti "Big Daddy"
Creonti "Big Daddy"
Total Damage: (700/750)

setup. With that setup I managed 970 damage in 4 shots, leaving 530 armor left meaning using the average shot of 245 It would have taken me 2-3 more shots to kill the psf. If a trader cant move in 6-7 shots then something is wrong, thus the issue here, people are fast enough to never die in a PSF. Also for reference with my ship being the 1st or 2nd most powerful offensively to not even come close to killing a psf, how does one in a hunter expect to ever kill it, even with mines. Lets be honest, this fix would fix other things other than the severe lack of hunting, it should lower the amount of money in the game as psf has lower trade potential, and it will require people to play more thus boosting the activity. Overall the PSF is just grossly overpowered, and there has to be some sort of a risk to trading.

Naeblis · Post by **Naeblis** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:41 am

Good post.

LotuS · Post by **LotuS** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:13 am

This is like wolf complaining the rabit is to fast lol

LotuS · Post by **LotuS** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:19 am

Jj: "Omg that rabit too fast ohh nooooes!"

"u gunna starve :D!"

JettJackson · Post by **JettJackson** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:53 am

LotuS wrote:This is like wolf complaining the rabit is to fast lol

Not quite, as a matter of fact I'd love to see if Page has numbers of kills on PSF for previous games, as far back as possible if possible.

silverx2 · Post by **silverx2** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:32 pm

as someone who is terrible at hunting, if i see someone trading in a psf, i don't even bother attacking, id rather save the turns for something i might be able to kill.

N.ator · Post by **N.ator** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 3:26 pm

LotuS wrote:This is like wolf complaining the rabit is to fast lol

i agree with lotus.

jj your lacking one thing. skill. dont be blaming the ship, the weapons and your experience. let me guess you didnt use mines, you didnt trap him. you did get him when he was goign to fed. the psf has been what it is for a long time now and obviously it works.

JettJackson · Post by **JettJackson** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:36 pm

N.ator wrote:
LotuS wrote:This is like wolf complaining the rabit is to fast lol

i agree with lotus.

jj your lacking one thing. skill. dont be blaming the ship, the weapons and your experience. let me guess you didnt use mines, you didnt trap him. you did get him when he was goign to fed. the psf has been what it is for a long time now and obviously it works.

Poca since losing the PSF would directly effect you I knew you wouldn't be able to side with me on this, which is fine. But the points you bring up are irrelevant, mines wouldnt mattered even if I had laid 50, the point being the ships with mines except the MS do not have the damage potential to kill a PSF easily. Dev has 8 weapons highest or 2nd highest damage potential to a MS, and I fired 4 shots and still was no where near killing it. Your insults just make your points irrelevant.

Post by **Page** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:51 pm

Actually the FU has more damage potential, it can technically one shot a PSF with the right setup (and a lot of luck :P ). But either way with the PSF you get the most defence of a trader with the best trade potential (well ATM is slightly better now, but they get the downside of no real warbird), so there is just no trade off to the PSF.

N.ator · Post by **N.ator** » Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:00 pm

JettJackson wrote:
N.ator wrote:
LotuS wrote:This is like wolf complaining the rabit is to fast lol

i agree with lotus.

jj your lacking one thing. skill. dont be blaming the ship, the weapons and your experience. let me guess you didnt use mines, you didnt trap him. you did get him when he was goign to fed. the psf has been what it is for a long time now and obviously it works.
Poca since losing the PSF would directly effect you I knew you wouldn't be able to side with me on this, which is fine. But the points you bring up are irrelevant, mines wouldnt mattered even if I had laid 50, the point being the ships with mines except the MS do not have the damage potential to kill a PSF easily. Dev has 8 weapons highest or 2nd highest damage potential to a MS, and I fired 4 shots and still was no where near killing it. Your insults just make your points irrelevant.

umm if you had a mine, or 50 minutes that means you could of probably got 2 more shots, which means they would of been dead. you just lack the skill of a good player, because if you were good you would of killed them. not my fault you shot 4 times and didnt kill them and now complaining to the web board to get it changed, because you "should of got that kill"...

sometimes you just have to accept how it is. a psf is a /15 and thats it. it wont change. not matter what you do it wont change. its like i have so many ideas and they are good ideas but they just dont happen. sorry jj but i cant see this changing.

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