Might make things slightly more interesting if you could make trails. Such as a location being in a dead end make it somehow possible to "break through" the walls and have other sectors link to it.
Also make it possible to break off other connections. Of course then you coould bust a planet and lock someone in so anything that has a location or player cannot be broken up.
Could make / destory long uno routes for planets... wreck routes etc.
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No, example...
Planet is in sector 5. Sector 5 is linked by all surrounding sectors.
Alliance 1 has had issues with Alliance 2 busting it a lot and dancing through the mine field with little difficulty. This is because the planet is 2(Sector 4,3) from the warp and 7(4,3, Warp) from a UNO in total.
So Alliance 1 decide to close the route off... they destroy the path to sector 4 for starters but can't destory the sector 3 as the warp exists there. So in theory they've just added an extra 3 / 4 turns to get into the planet (2 in reality :p).
Of course they also have the option to invest heavily and make it only so 1 path to said planet exists. Of course Alliance 2 can come along now and re-create the paths.
Planet is in sector 5. Sector 5 is linked by all surrounding sectors.
Alliance 1 has had issues with Alliance 2 busting it a lot and dancing through the mine field with little difficulty. This is because the planet is 2(Sector 4,3) from the warp and 7(4,3, Warp) from a UNO in total.
So Alliance 1 decide to close the route off... they destroy the path to sector 4 for starters but can't destory the sector 3 as the warp exists there. So in theory they've just added an extra 3 / 4 turns to get into the planet (2 in reality :p).
Of course they also have the option to invest heavily and make it only so 1 path to said planet exists. Of course Alliance 2 can come along now and re-create the paths.
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Not only is it a very interesting idea, but you understand the delicacy of the situation (which is very important).Nix` wrote:What it would require is difficult. If its too easy obviously they place will get screwed up... but it also means its easy to reverse any changes. Would be difficult to impliment correctly I think.
That said it could provide a lot of new options to alliances / players
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tbh though Space doesn't have these 'barriers' you're talking about. Indeed Mine Fields are pretty close to stretching reality as space is meant to be 3D and you *can* ALWAYS go round something....
If you could alter the galaxy map you'd damage newbie players who wouldn't have the power or knowledge to change it back.
If you could alter the galaxy map you'd allow alliances to create 'corridors' of power for example leading from one planet to an UNO or CA etc
If you could alter the galaxy map you'd really screw the solo players in a slow ship such as a PSF, because they wouldn't have alliance mates who could spend turns (and have ships with decent speed / hard points) to destroy / create these 'routes'.
IMHO although this idea is very interesting, it will cause a huge amount of problems. Especially for those players we want to keep, the new ones.
I also think the coding would be a nightmare as each sector would have to have individual exclusions / inclusions depending on what was in it. Do you follow? Kinda like, you couldn't alter FED space or location space or warp space etc.
Also, it would create server performance issues wouldn't it? The reason being that ports use distance to calculate profit / xp for goods. If routes were always changing, calculation time would increase as one sector change could affect many ports.
Additionally, doing this would mean tools such as SMC and MGU as well as basic galaxy maps would be pretty useless. I think this would cause the following:
1) Lack of development of 3rd party applications
2) Less money coming into SMR. I'll explain: I paid $50 or so this game for maps of every galaxy which I then shared in password maps. I used this for the alliance I'm in as well. I'm not going to pay that money if the maps change in the first week of game play. Therefore removing a source of SMR income...
Finally, I know this is all negative comments, but I really feel that SMR needs to concentrate on the small things first.
The bugs I reported months ago aren't fixed, I voluntered help as a newbie helper and in other areas and didn't hear anything etc.
Sorry for being negative
If you could alter the galaxy map you'd damage newbie players who wouldn't have the power or knowledge to change it back.
If you could alter the galaxy map you'd allow alliances to create 'corridors' of power for example leading from one planet to an UNO or CA etc
If you could alter the galaxy map you'd really screw the solo players in a slow ship such as a PSF, because they wouldn't have alliance mates who could spend turns (and have ships with decent speed / hard points) to destroy / create these 'routes'.
IMHO although this idea is very interesting, it will cause a huge amount of problems. Especially for those players we want to keep, the new ones.
I also think the coding would be a nightmare as each sector would have to have individual exclusions / inclusions depending on what was in it. Do you follow? Kinda like, you couldn't alter FED space or location space or warp space etc.
Also, it would create server performance issues wouldn't it? The reason being that ports use distance to calculate profit / xp for goods. If routes were always changing, calculation time would increase as one sector change could affect many ports.
Additionally, doing this would mean tools such as SMC and MGU as well as basic galaxy maps would be pretty useless. I think this would cause the following:
1) Lack of development of 3rd party applications
2) Less money coming into SMR. I'll explain: I paid $50 or so this game for maps of every galaxy which I then shared in password maps. I used this for the alliance I'm in as well. I'm not going to pay that money if the maps change in the first week of game play. Therefore removing a source of SMR income...
Finally, I know this is all negative comments, but I really feel that SMR needs to concentrate on the small things first.
The bugs I reported months ago aren't fixed, I voluntered help as a newbie helper and in other areas and didn't hear anything etc.
Sorry for being negative
Chances are newb's wont noticeaxisofunity wrote: If you could alter the galaxy map you'd damage newbie players who wouldn't have the power or knowledge to change it back.
No dead ends in essence would be created from it. Would be a problem of course but nothing majorThats the ideaIf you could alter the galaxy map you'd allow alliances to create 'corridors' of power for example leading from one planet to an UNO or CA etc
Add's something to alliance war's. This also means Alliances planet galaxies could get shafted after that 20 turn uno trip is turned into something like a 10 turn tripSolo players can get heavily shafted when an alliance busts the best routes. They have to adapt or join an alliance usually.If you could alter the galaxy map you'd really screw the solo players in a slow ship such as a PSF, because they wouldn't have alliance mates who could spend turns (and have ships with decent speed / hard points) to destroy / create these 'routes'.
New players can't complain about what the game used to be like... they didn't play :pIMHO although this idea is very interesting, it will cause a huge amount of problems. Especially for those players we want to keep, the new ones.
The scripting would be there already. Not sure what the SMR database structure is like. But it should be ok (For MySql) and would already have the galaxy layout inclusive of all locations, traders, forces stored.I also think the coding would be a nightmare as each sector would have to have individual exclusions / inclusions depending on what was in it. Do you follow? Kinda like, you couldn't alter FED space or location space or warp space etc.
Currently 500 players on a beast of a machineAlso, it would create server performance issues wouldn't it? The reason being that ports use distance to calculate profit / xp for goods. If routes were always changing, calculation time would increase as one sector change could affect many ports.
But I'm unsure as what the setup is for SMR. Ports are changed all the time, be it via raids or upgrades. Mine fields can also make areas of the map inaccessable to most. Updating your SMC / MGU is already common practice amongst mostAdditionally, doing this would mean tools such as SMC and MGU as well as basic galaxy maps would be pretty useless. I think this would cause the following:
1) Lack of development of 3rd party applications
2) Less money coming into SMR. I'll explain: I paid $50 or so this game for maps of every galaxy which I then shared in password maps. I used this for the alliance I'm in as well. I'm not going to pay that money if the maps change in the first week of game play. Therefore removing a source of SMR income...
I can outdo negativity... its been a long week hehehe. Valid point all the same. Still good to have idea's there to be consideredFinally, I know this is all negative comments, but I really feel that SMR needs to concentrate on the small things first.
The bugs I reported months ago aren't fixed, I voluntered help as a newbie helper and in other areas and didn't hear anything etc.
Sorry for being negative