Newbie games

SnakeBite · Post by **SnakeBite** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:18 pm

Yes, there is already a poll but that one was declared confusing and subjective and I think we need a clear opinion about this.

DarthNihilus · Post by **DarthNihilus** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:32 am

I think a Newbie Game would probally be the best way to go IF we had a large enough mass of newbies. However until then I think the best thing for us to do would be to lift the blindfold that makes it so the newbie can't see vet or vet forces. Just don't allow anyone to examine each other. I think if the newbie sees them then he will be better prepared for the 60K mark. I know when I hit that mark I was very surprised and scared to all of a suddenly see those forces and ships I seen in the news. I had allways thought until that point that the vet only came into racial to kill.

I also think the above suggestion would make the game seem more than big empty spaces. It gives the false impression to the new player in his first 5 minutes That critical time that he or she is deciding if tis game is worth it. A big empty field of nothing but newbies makes them think no one is playing. Makes them think the game well probally tank soon. Then they exit. (if they continue past the login screen that is).

In July SMR had 4080 Unique Visitors ( http://bobby.fem.tu-ilmenau.de/cgi-bin/ ... mrealms.de ). Not sure what that means. Is that the number of actual total logins that we have had? Or is that like the collum header suggests the number of one time visitors to the link http://www.smrealms.com. Either way how much of that 4080 was someone looking for a game to get hooked on. Admit it everyone, this game can be adictively fun. Is there a way to tell how many first time players have logged off in the first 5 minutes or ten minutes after character creation never to return?

Harry Krishna · Post by **Harry Krishna** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:15 am

chiefs > indians

Smor · Post by **Smor** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:51 am

newbie games all the way.

LotuS · Post by **LotuS** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:05 pm

more newbie games please

Post by **Astax** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:39 pm

of course. But I should be allowed to stay in the newbie game until I feel ready for prime time... sometime in the year 2212, when my brain-in-a-jar (medical term) will be hooked up to the holonet and I can play SMR15 like a pro, without my slow connection :O

buttsack · Post by **buttsack** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:44 am

bump.

yes, i would like newbie games.

Ardbeg · Post by **Ardbeg** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:49 am

I completely disagree, because it doesn't teach them anything about how it will be in the big, bad real game, and just takes more players away from rosters that are already thin.

It is much better to design games to help them, rather than consign them to a meaningless newbie playground (full of vet multis running around shooting them). My latest map, for example, gives them a whole neutral galaxy to play in. We could even add planets to it if we can get it coded so vets can't use them.

buttsack · Post by **buttsack** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:11 am

Ardbeg wrote:I completely disagree, because it doesn't teach them anything about how it will be in the big, bad real game, and just takes more players away from rosters that are already thin.

It is much better to design games to help them, rather than consign them to a meaningless newbie playground (full of vet multis running around shooting them). My latest map, for example, gives them a whole neutral galaxy to play in. We could even add planets to it if we can get it coded so vets can't use them.

I agree with this. This is what we need. And it would be so super-cool if someone coded the ability for a small group of vets that were going to spend turns and time teaching them in their galaxy. This would be so cool.

DarthNihilus · Post by **DarthNihilus** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:28 am

buttsack wrote:
Ardbeg wrote:I completely disagree, because it doesn't teach them anything about how it will be in the big, bad real game, and just takes more players away from rosters that are already thin.

It is much better to design games to help them, rather than consign them to a meaningless newbie playground (full of vet multis running around shooting them). My latest map, for example, gives them a whole neutral galaxy to play in. We could even add planets to it if we can get it coded so vets can't use them.
I agree with Ardbeg on this. This is what we need. And it would be so super-cool if someone coded the ability for a small group of vets that were going to spend turns and time teaching them in their galaxy. This would be so cool.

I fond myself agreeing with Ardbeg ATM. If we had 500 newbies a game then yes go for Newbie Games. However, we do not posses a big enough playerbase for newbie games. I think we need to run with my vet color idea and Ideas like Ardbegs. Let everyone see everyone. Let the newbies see what they are supposed to fear. Maybe then more of them will live past 65k with out a pod. If they even get that far.

The guy I podded was 62,083 xp I felt so really bad after the pod but I was excited, like a scanvanger finding a freashly killed gazelle without any predators around, when I clicked that link.

If he had been able to see vets and vets see him then someone would have noticed this behavior before hand. Mentioned something to him. It would even make it easier to help teach them if we can see them. Notice there mistakes in game play. We get there scout pings. Why do we have to be invisible to eachother? Just dont allow a Examine.

How many successful games keep the new game players away from the main playerbase?

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